I was going to dismantle this plane as a successful test completed so I could move on, but Greg had it right--it was different and I like that. It wasn't different enough, however, since it was originally just a mutant q-butterfly. I kept thinking I could make it even more distinct. I never named the first version. I kept referring to it as "something." So, when I came up with the snub nose with full fuse idea I needed a (new) name. Naturally it became the "something else." The something else flew pretty well, for the first 15 seconds. Then the DXA and brand new 9x6 apc prop seperated itself from the plane at full throttle and dissapeared in a yard full of 15" snow. That had never happened to me before. The plane suddenly went goofy, then the motor took off like a shot and it went silent. Very bizarre. I'll never see that drivetrain again :-( I even had a pin through a hole into the stick. It must have worked loose somehow. So I went back in the house dejected as that was my last DXA and only 9x6 and there isn't a LHS in this state and I'm broke to boot. After a bit of sulking I strapped on the IPS100-S1 that has never worked for me and put on an 8x6 apc. Since I was ticked and it was dark now, I strapped on some LEDs so I could either try it or kill it and satisfy my addiction. It was a little heavy at 9.8+ oz, but it did fly and was controllable even in the dark and in the span of about 40'x40'. I still can't believe it balances so easily and even needs the battery back on top of the CG line. I can't wait till I can get some more time in on it and try some other motors. I still need to figure out if it needs any more tweaks.